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Vegemite [the better brand of brown stuff] Info is here
An Ode to Marmite
The Joy of Marmite
I spread my Marmite sparingly, upon my buttered toast
Of all the things to put on bread, it's what I like the most.
Its flavour always feels warm, although it isn't hot
--Caustic like a chili sauce, it certainly is not
Approved by vegetarians, and good for your nutrition
Of what my Mum called savoury, the very definition.
Though made from lowly byproducts--leftover brewing ooze
It is so reminiscent of the finest of French stews
Such grand associations were surely what was meant
When so named by clever brewers from Burton on the Trent
Precisely what exquisite yeast do Marmite makers use
To lend such gourmet qualities to brewing residues?
-- A.R.D. Pepper, March 1993
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MARMITE is a Registered Trade Mark of/Est une Marque Deposée de
CPC International Inc.
Made in England/Preparé en Angleterre by/par CPC(UK) Ltd. Esher, Surrey
The MARMITE Company, Burton-on-Trent
From: arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca (A.R.D. Pepper [MFCF])
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.new-zealand
Date: 28 May 93 17:14:50 GMT
arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca,
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From: hamish@waikato.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Cultural variations in Marmite?
Date: 3 Jun 93 09:51:12 +1200
In article <1u053gINNq3g@pacific.cs.ubc.ca>, shaze@cs.ubc.ca (Scott Hazelhurst) writes:
> I have been arguing with someone from the UK and someone from New
> Zealand about the composition of Marmite. My experience of Marmite (in
> Canada and South Africa) is that it is a yeast and vegetable extract
> (no meat content). They were strenuously arguing that Marmite
> contained beef extract (and that the difference between Vegemite
> and Marmite is that the latter had beef extract added to it).
>
> Does anyone have a handy bottle of Marmite to check the contents? Are
> there differences in Marmite sold in different parts of the world?
>
>
As a matter of fact I have one here in my office...
It says.
MARMITE
YEAST SPREAD
A source of Vitamin B complex
on the front, and on the side...
Ingredients: Yeast, Sugar, Salt, Wheatgerm extract,
Mineral Salt (508), Colour (Caramel),
Herbs, Spices, Vitamins (Niacin,
Thiamin, Riboflavin).
Nutrition Information
5g of this food contains Vitamin B1 ..... 0.30mg
Riboflavin ..... 0.30mg
Niacin ..... 2.60mg
And the clincher
100% VEGETARIAN
Sorry no beef extract. Perhaps vegemite does? (Tastes foul enough to be beef
extract from a certain anatomical part of the cow, but thats another story).
Oh yeah. Its great for preventing hangovers. A teaspoon of this, and a glass of
water (No you don't mix them together. Drink the water and suck the marmite)
will stop a hangover from occuring in the morning (You do this before you sober
up :)
Hamish Marson, Computer Services, University of Waikato|
hamish@waikato.ac.nz. Fax +64 7 8384066 | Computers are only
Disclaimer: Remember. You heard it here first! | Human.....
From: rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: HANGOVER (Was: Cultural variations in Marmite?)
In article , mazz+@andrew.cmu.edu
(Joseph D. Mazza) wrote:
>
> Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.new-zealand: 3-Jun-93 Re: Cultural
> variations in .. by David E. Brown@hubcap.cl
> > Back in my heavier drinking days, I found the best foil for a hangover
> > was drinking a glass or three of water before going to bed. Of all the
> > ways I've tried, this one seemed to be the most effective. Of course
> > you will have to make a trip to the john during the night, probably.
Dehydration (metabolizing alcohol uses a lot of water) is definitely one of
the contributors to hangovers, particularly if you are drinking hard stuff
rather than beer. Other contributors are low blood sugar (alcohol
interferes with the liver's blood glucose regulation function) and vitamin
depletion. So some marmite (for the vitamins) spread on whole wheat bread
(for the complex carbohydrates) and washed down with lots of water sounds
like a sensible bed time snack. Even better, drink lots of water and gnash
appropriately whilst imbibing. Of course in both cases, the more you are
going to need it, as others pointed out, the less likely you are to think
of it.
-Rich Haller University of Oregon, Eugene, OR,
USA
In reply to the above...
From: mfaville@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: HANGOVER (Was: Cultural variations in Marmite?)
Followup-To: soc.culture.new-zealand,soc.culture.british
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand
I have had varying degrees of success with the water-guzzling premptive
hangover prevention technique, and I have come to the conclusion that the
effectiveness of this method depends upon how much you sunk the night before.
It seems that I reach an alcohol saturation point beyond which any amount
of water-drinking is useless - I still wake up with a grossly enlarged tongue
superglued to the roof of my mouth, every mucus membrane in my body is
dried and stretched to breaking point, and my brain is struggling to escape via
either of my ears.
At this stage there are two strategies that might be employed:
With this research behind me, my rule of thumb now is that if after an evening
of drinking if you can remember the water thing, do it. If not then .... well
no worries. Also, if you do decide to eat marmite:
Marty, Waikato University.
Subject: Re: Cultural variations in Marmite?
From: barryp@munin (Barry Phease)
Date: Mon, 31 May 1993 21:53:35 GMT
David Churcher (davec@wsti.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> In article <1u053gINNq3g@pacific.cs.ubc.ca> shaze@cs.ubc.ca writes:
> >... They were strenuously arguing that Marmite
> >contained beef extract (and that the difference between Vegemite
> >and Marmite is that the latter had beef extract added to it).
> There is no beef extract in Marmite; this is an urban legend that
> Sanitarium have gone to great lengths to deny (in the UK, anyway).
> --
> davec@wsti.demon.co.uk (David Churcher)
Surely the original marmite was the blackened marrow from cooked bones.
I agree though that modern stuff sold as marmite is completely
vegetarian compatible.
To add another name to the debate. I discovered a Swiss? variant call
Cenovit. Not perfect but a reasonable substitute (better than Vegemite
anyway). Anybody else know anything about this.
[No it isn't, it's cenovisse - Michael]
Barry Phease | "If aught I have said is truth, that truth
| shall reveal itself in a clearer voice, and in
BarryP@otago.ac.nz | words more kin to your thoughts."
| - The Prophet: Kahlil Gibran
Alan Brown writes on: Cultural variations in Marmite
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Cultural variations in Marmite?
mcrae@husc7.harvard.edu (Andrew McRae) writes:
(The main differences between Marmite and Vegemite are that the latter is
Australian and tastes awful.)
Careful - you're treading on almost religious issues here.
There are 3 types of yeast extract in NZ/Australia -
vegemite, marmite and promite
They're basically all the same, BUT.
Speaking as somone brought up on vegemite, I find the difference
between vege/marmite is that marmite has a more pronounced caramel
taste. (That's what the colouring is, BTW)
Vegemite eaters will eat marmite at a pinch, but marmite eaters
tend not to be able to stomach vegemite. Promite is a relatively
recent introduction to me, and I've never met anyone who's eaten it
as a kid. It leads to a wierd situation where we have 2 large jars
of vegemite/marmite in the house, plus a small one of promite
for occasional use.
One last thing. Due to a couple of recessive genes I can't taste
bitter, so my perception may be skewed a bit. (Bitrex? What's that?)
(Favourite drink - bitters and tonic. LOTS of bitters...:-)
dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:
Following up on my own posts....
Ingredients:
- Vegemite: (Kraft General Foods NZ Ltd)
-
Yeast extract, salt, malt extract, colour(caramel),
vegetable flavours, vitamins (niacin, thiamine, riboflavin)
- Marmite: (Sanatarium Health Food Company, NZ)
- Yeast, sugar, salt, wheatgerm extract, mineral salt (508)
colour(caramel), herbs, spices, vitamins (niacin, thiamin, riboflavin)
It's also got a small note under the ingredients: "100% vegetarian"
(but then, what do you expect from a company owned by
the 7th Day Adventist church?)
- Promite: (Masterfoods of Australia)
- Vegetable protein extract, sugar, yeast, natural colour(caramel)
salt, thickener (Wheat starch), emulsifier (Glycerol monostearate)
spices, added vitamins, water
Other countries' versions may vary....
Alan Brown
dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
More of the poem
In case you like your Marmite more thickly spread, here's another
verse of the poem, kindly sent in by its author:
I spread my Marmite sparingly, upon my buttered toast
Of all the things to put on bread, it's what I like the most.
Its flavour always feels warm, although it isn't hot
--Caustic like a chili sauce, it certainly is not
Not sour nor bitter, so subtle tasting generally,
But it has a pungent salty side which can my downfall be
For if through too much eagerness I heap it far too thick,
I will regret my foolishness, as I get nearly sick
Then for a month, or even more, I will not touch the stuff
Until my fading memory emboldens me enough
Such occasional indulgence provides an education;
The key to true enjoyment is always moderation.
-- A.R.D. Pepper, March 1993
Marmite Alternative Found!
One of our readers informed us that you can get a brand called
"Our Mate" which tastes just like Marmite, but not as sweet, or
as our reader put it The big difference is that it doesn't have that horrible caramel flavour that all the other do!
You can get this amazing product at Woolworths. It should also
be noted here that this variation of Marmite would seem to suit
people recently arrived from the UK and already adapted to the
Marmite there!!
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