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In article <36p4oi$dup@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, cnr@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (C. N.
Robertson) wrote:
> Perhaps it might be interesting to non-NZ readers of the group to post a
> definition of "bogan"... I've never been all that sure myself and I'm a kiwi.
> Just a suggestion...
>
> Chris
BOGAN (n). See also _Westie_, _Petrolhead_, _Hoon_.
Appearance. Typically clad in black rib jersey (Hallensteins, $49.95),
black jeans, and a shredded black heavy-metal t-shirt. Clothing with beer
logos is an acceptable alternative to above - Waikato is favourite. Black
oilstains on skin optional. A curious feature is the haircut, which
although short(ish) at the front and sides is long and straggly at the
back. The cover thus provided enables one to distinguish the bogan from
the _Redneck_.
Habitat. The beach in summer, but only those with free road access. Mt
Maunganui provides a typical bogan haunt. Despite the heat, bogans NEVER
expose their torsos, even when swimming. Science has yet to explain why
they refuse to shed their protective coating of black fabric. Bogans may
be found at all times on back roads, at rugby matches, and in public bars.
If you can't see a bogan straight away, they may be shy - try watching the
older Holden Kingswoods for activity.
Feeding. Copious quantities of _BEER_ provide all the nourishment a Bogan
requires.
Reproduction. Bogans appear to be exclusively male. Females are activley
repelled by cries of "getchagearsoff" or "showusyagrowler" if they dare
venture too close. Like _Geeks_, _Rugbyheads_ and _Best friends of popular
girls_, the Bogan is the non-viable offspring of apparently fertile
humans.
Seldom seen in numbers fewer than three.
Additions welcome.
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Stephen Judd
stephen@waikato.ac.nz
all care and no responsibility taken
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In article <36p4oi$dup@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, cnr@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (C. N. Robertson) writes:
> Perhaps it might be interesting to non-NZ readers of the group to post a
> definition of "bogan"... I've never been all that sure myself and I'm a kiwi.
> Just a suggestion...
>
> Chris
The true Bogan wears black jerseys, black jeans, etc. When the weather
is warm they take off their black jerseys to reveal black t-shirts,
usually with something like "Jack Daniels' Finest Tennessee Whiskey"
or Harley-Davidson" on them.
They range in size from large, potentially gang sized Boganis Maximis,
to the more common Boganis Rodentia, the common or garden runt bogan.
If they have an area of specialization it usually involves the
combustion engine. Petrol-heads are usually bogans, with the
notable exception of the late Dr Roger Freeth, and bogans are
usually petrol-heads.
They like loud music, especially bands like AC/DC, Iron Maiden
(another good source for T-shirts) and other heavy metal bands
of that ilk. Anything much less mainstream in music usually
classifies them as sub-classes of the genus, for example, the
Death-Metal Bogan, or the Speed-Metal Bogan.
Spinal Tap & Bad News were parodies of Bogan Bands.
The Bogan's favourite sport is unquestionably Rugby League, which
they support with a passion. Indeed, the only time they depart from
regulation Boganware is when they don the jersey of their favourite
NSWRL team (here in NZ this is usually Manly or Brisbane). This
process is called "dressing up" and is reserved for weddings, funerals,
occasions of state, etc.
Bogans drink Lion Red or, if pressed, DB Draught. Regional Beers
like Speights, Canterbury Draught, Waikato, etc, have no appeal
to them because Boganity is not a regional thing. It is, in the
end, a karmic attempt to connect (in a spiritual way) with
kindred spirits everywhere.
In NZ the greatest number of Bogans per Capita observed by this
investigator is 0.67 in Timaru in 1990. Bogans flourish in
provincial centres such as Invercargill, Wanganui, New Plymouth,
Ashburton, Nelson, etc, and, although they do exist in large
numbers in urban areas, the densities are not so high. This is
possibly due to the presence in such areas of the natural enemy
of the Bogan; Professii Urbanii, the urban professional, whom
Bogans fear and despise.
Hope this helps,
Dave Frame,
Emeritus Professor of Boganology
University of Mataura.
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In article <36p4oi$dup@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, cnr@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (C. N. Robertson) writes:
> Perhaps it might be interesting to non-NZ readers of the group to post a
> definition of "bogan"... I've never been all that sure myself and I'm a kiwi.
> Just a suggestion...
BOGAN:
A guy who wears a black jersey, black jeans, a cigarette and a Megadeth/Slayer
t-shirt (guess the colour) and who drives around in a V8 Holden with no exhaust
and (presumably) no side windows. Bogans take pleasure in pouring oil or similar
substances on stretches of road and seeing how quickly they can wear out their
tyres. They also like to have competitions to see who can drive up and down a
particular street the most times in a day. If you meet one, they will most
likely have a similarly attired woman around their neck and will say something
like "put da free fifty chev in da udder day an bored er out, yeah, gotta twin
carbs an double overhead cam, blew da diff da udder day eh, I wuz doin dis
burnout an she jist............"
How's that for stereotyping??
Aaron
THE ROCK STOMPS HERE!
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Ah, now I understand. They're Bodgies!
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Originally escaped from Nightcaps/Hedgehope in the late 60's early 70's
moving in mk1 zephry's to setup in Mataura/Gore where they festered for
some years alternating between the freezing works and seasonal
unemployment. Easily identified by the scar on their necks where they
have removed either a brother or sister. Some forays were made into
Riversdale but this petered out with the onslaught of maladjusted rural
youth from the surrounding area. Still the Bogan hung on, maintaining a
foothold in the locale, rampaging through the better known watering
holes like the Falls and Croydon Lodge to name but a few and also doing
the mandatory BOG laps of the centre parking space in Gore finishing in a
meal of pushing fush and chups into their faces from the pie cart by
the railway station. Yes the Bogan is there to be admired........ :)
-chris-
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Subject: Re: Bogan - definition?
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 08:19:15
In article stephen@waikato.ac.nz (Stephen Judd) writes:
>BOGAN (n). See also _Westie_, _Petrolhead_, _Hoon_.
>Reproduction. Bogans appear to be exclusively male. Females are activley
>repelled by cries of "getchagearsoff" or "showusyagrowler" if they dare
>venture too close. Like _Geeks_, _Rugbyheads_ and _Best friends of popular
>girls_, the Bogan is the non-viable offspring of apparently fertile
>humans.
To the contrary the Bogan male often appears to attract significant numbers of
females. The major variety of these is the Bogan "chick", usually clad in
spray on jeans (or short denim mini in summer) and polyester local rugby club
jacket. They are usually small in stature (Bogans don't like their women to be
taller than they are) with long, artificially coloured hair. A small subgroup
of overweight Bogan females are to be found dressed in long shiny velvet
skirts - the inspiration for which appears to be the American pop singer
Stevie Nicks.
Significant numbers of nonBogan females are attracted to the Bogan to keep the
species from dying out due to inbreeding. There are a number of interesting
reasons why such women are attracted to Bogans - curiosity; revenge on former
boyfriend/parents/church; masochism...
research continues
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From: stephen@waikato.ac.nz (Stephen Judd)
Subject: Re: Bogan - definition?
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 1994 11:01:47 +1200
In article ,
YOUNGSA@AgResearch.cri.nz (Information Technology Group) wrote:
> In article
stephen@waikato.ac.nz (Stephen Judd) writes:
>
> >BOGAN (n). See also _Westie_, _Petrolhead_, _Hoon_.
>
> >Reproduction. Bogans appear to be exclusively male. Females are activley
> >repelled by cries of "getchagearsoff" or "showusyagrowler" if they dare
> >venture too close. Like _Geeks_, _Rugbyheads_ and _Best friends of popular
> >girls_, the Bogan is the non-viable offspring of apparently fertile
> >humans.
>
> To the contrary the Bogan male often appears to attract significant
numbers of
> females. The major variety of these is the Bogan "chick", usually clad in
< excellent stuff deleted >
Hmmmm. OK, so breeding behaviour is observed - but what about offspring?
Has anyone ever seen an infant bogan? (I admit the existence of juveniles
;-) And what happens to bogans when they grow old? Any Boganographers care
to comment?
--
Stephen Judd
stephen@waikato.ac.nz
all care and no responsibility taken
From: Wicked@waltec.warc.cri.nz (Wicked)
Subject: Re: Bogan - definition?
Date: 5 Oct 1994 00:31:50 GMT
In article <36p4oi$dup@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, cnr@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (C. N.
Robertson) wrote:
> Perhaps it might be interesting to non-NZ readers of the group to post a
> definition of "bogan"... I've never been all that sure myself and I'm a kiwi.
> Just a suggestion...
from a wellington veiwpoint a bogan male IMHO (also known as bodgie) is
likely to drive a holden with fluffy dice, possibly mag wheels. drinks DB
or Lion Red and is unlikely to have ever heard of any small NZ breweries,
likes rugby (almost passionately), smokes Pall Mall or Winfield Red
cigarettes (that's an added observation on my part), lives in city
outskirts or small towns, has hair that's short on top and long and
scraggly at the back, wears blue or black jeans constantly etc., etc.,
--
wicked@waltec.warc.cri.nz
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> p> Ah, now I understand. They're Bodgies!
> p>
>You're showing your age, Lyndon. Bruce Beatham was a bodgie.
I though 'Bodgie' was a regional survival only in Dunedin. I well remember
the tension between Bodgies and 'Scarfies' (students) in the late
seventies. I recall being smacked upside the head by a bodgie outside The
Governor's coffee house on George Street one Sunday afternoon. My crime,
presumably, was simply being there and failing to stop breathing.
When I moved to CHCH nobody seemed to use the word 'Bodgie' up there,
although the species appeared to prosper in that city also.
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